In mid-April, prior to jury deliberation and the conviction of former MPD Officer Derek Chauvin, I moderated a discussion on abolition that remains pertinent to how we might think about racial justice and prison justice in this complicated moment. That event was titled “SJCO Presents...Abolition: Derek Chauvin, George Floyd, and This Moment.” It is a project of Prescott College, where I teach, and their Social Justice and Community Organizing program. This is the second part of that event. A transcription will be available soon.